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I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been
experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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For me, it starts with 0.143999999999999.. but it doesn't change the format
of the number here with XL 2003. If it bothers them that much, they can use =ROUND(A1+0.001,3) and fill that down instead. "EXCELNCBOY" wrote in message ... I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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You have been given great answer for fixing the problem but if you are
interested in the WHY then you need to learn how computers store numbers in binary notation (aka IEEE convention) and that some decimal numbers (the type we use because of 10 fingers) cannot be accurately represented when using 15 digit binary precision. A bit like not being able to exactly write 1/3 as a fraction. best wishes -- Bernard Liengme www.stfx.ca/people/bliengme remove CAPS in email address "EXCELNCBOY" wrote in message ... I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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Microsoft acknowledges there is an "issue" with the drag feature. In Excel
2003, this problems starts for me at 0.144, the same as Dave. If you just add 0.001 to the cell above and drag down, you can usually go a little further till computer rounding issues kick in. For me, it was able to go to 0.688 before computer rounding problems started. Microsoft recommends using the Round function as Dave has shown, or using Edit | Fill | Series. I assume that Edit | Fill | Series uses some sort of built-in rounding, and this is why Microsoft recommends this over selecting two cells, and dragging down. A usual quick and dirty technique is to drag down like you have done to get the value of the bottom cell. Then, redo this with Edit | Fill | Series and insert a stop value. -- Dana DeLouis Win XP & Office 2003 "EXCELNCBOY" wrote in message ... I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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Since there is no problem in XL2k and XL97, then I assume it's not a "binary
math" problem ... correct ? OR, are there built in roundings in those "drag" versions? -- Regards, RD -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the Group, so all may benefit! ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dana DeLouis" wrote in message ... Microsoft acknowledges there is an "issue" with the drag feature. In Excel 2003, this problems starts for me at 0.144, the same as Dave. If you just add 0.001 to the cell above and drag down, you can usually go a little further till computer rounding issues kick in. For me, it was able to go to 0.688 before computer rounding problems started. Microsoft recommends using the Round function as Dave has shown, or using Edit | Fill | Series. I assume that Edit | Fill | Series uses some sort of built-in rounding, and this is why Microsoft recommends this over selecting two cells, and dragging down. A usual quick and dirty technique is to drag down like you have done to get the value of the bottom cell. Then, redo this with Edit | Fill | Series and insert a stop value. -- Dana DeLouis Win XP & Office 2003 "EXCELNCBOY" wrote in message ... I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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I did not know this 'feature' is new.
Maybe it is a binary arithmetic problem; perhaps the programmers changed the algorithm for this procedure. best wishes -- Bernard Liengme www.stfx.ca/people/bliengme remove CAPS in email address "RagDyer" wrote in message ... Since there is no problem in XL2k and XL97, then I assume it's not a "binary math" problem ... correct ? OR, are there built in roundings in those "drag" versions? -- Regards, RD -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the Group, so all may benefit! ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dana DeLouis" wrote in message ... Microsoft acknowledges there is an "issue" with the drag feature. In Excel 2003, this problems starts for me at 0.144, the same as Dave. If you just add 0.001 to the cell above and drag down, you can usually go a little further till computer rounding issues kick in. For me, it was able to go to 0.688 before computer rounding problems started. Microsoft recommends using the Round function as Dave has shown, or using Edit | Fill | Series. I assume that Edit | Fill | Series uses some sort of built-in rounding, and this is why Microsoft recommends this over selecting two cells, and dragging down. A usual quick and dirty technique is to drag down like you have done to get the value of the bottom cell. Then, redo this with Edit | Fill | Series and insert a stop value. -- Dana DeLouis Win XP & Office 2003 "EXCELNCBOY" wrote in message ... I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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Thank you all for your input. I'll review the Edit-Fill Series with the
users which should make them happy. "Bernard Liengme" wrote: I did not know this 'feature' is new. Maybe it is a binary arithmetic problem; perhaps the programmers changed the algorithm for this procedure. best wishes -- Bernard Liengme www.stfx.ca/people/bliengme remove CAPS in email address "RagDyer" wrote in message ... Since there is no problem in XL2k and XL97, then I assume it's not a "binary math" problem ... correct ? OR, are there built in roundings in those "drag" versions? -- Regards, RD -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please keep all correspondence within the Group, so all may benefit! ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dana DeLouis" wrote in message ... Microsoft acknowledges there is an "issue" with the drag feature. In Excel 2003, this problems starts for me at 0.144, the same as Dave. If you just add 0.001 to the cell above and drag down, you can usually go a little further till computer rounding issues kick in. For me, it was able to go to 0.688 before computer rounding problems started. Microsoft recommends using the Round function as Dave has shown, or using Edit | Fill | Series. I assume that Edit | Fill | Series uses some sort of built-in rounding, and this is why Microsoft recommends this over selecting two cells, and dragging down. A usual quick and dirty technique is to drag down like you have done to get the value of the bottom cell. Then, redo this with Edit | Fill | Series and insert a stop value. -- Dana DeLouis Win XP & Office 2003 "EXCELNCBOY" wrote in message ... I am trying to resolve an issue that several of our users have been experiencing. I've been able to duplicate it on all of our systems. Example: Type .101 in Cell A1 and then type .102 in Cell A2. Select both cells and then drag to fill all the cells in a series to cell 1000. At some point(most cases line 564, the format changes from .xxx to .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). This has resolved in many issues when doing tables and charts. Running XP SP1 and Office 2003 SP1. Any suggestions. Thanks. |
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