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I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make
EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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A lot of people have reported similar problems.
- Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com _______ "Norm" wrote in message ... I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with
vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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Disable screen updating, and remove the selection from your code. I can
imagine setting the chart height to zero while working on it will have unexpected consequences. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I failed to mention that I had previously turned off screen updating which
helped as the macro moved from various pages but it continues to redraw the graph as the macro executes on that page. I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max I need. For lack of any thing else to try I used the hide feature. I have one PC with XP with both Excel 2000 and 2007 and ran run side by side comparisons with Excel 2000 which runs the plots in less than a second whereas with 2007 it takes 15 seconds per plot. Another problem I've seen is the following: I have another PC with Vista which also has both 2000 and 2007 Excel. If I try to load the Excel 2000 file (which works fine on the XP version) on a Vista machine it errors out...don't know why. Both PC's have plenty capacity and speed with duo processors. thanks in advance for any help. -- halfpint "Jon Peltier" wrote: Disable screen updating, and remove the selection from your code. I can imagine setting the chart height to zero while working on it will have unexpected consequences. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max
I need. In general, you do not need to select anything. This gets an axis minimum from an unselected chart on a not necessarily active sheet in a not necessarily active workbook: Workbooks("Book1.xls).Worksheets("Sheet1").ChartOb jects(1).Chart.Axes(xlValue, xlPrimary).MinimumScale - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I failed to mention that I had previously turned off screen updating which helped as the macro moved from various pages but it continues to redraw the graph as the macro executes on that page. I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max I need. For lack of any thing else to try I used the hide feature. I have one PC with XP with both Excel 2000 and 2007 and ran run side by side comparisons with Excel 2000 which runs the plots in less than a second whereas with 2007 it takes 15 seconds per plot. Another problem I've seen is the following: I have another PC with Vista which also has both 2000 and 2007 Excel. If I try to load the Excel 2000 file (which works fine on the XP version) on a Vista machine it errors out...don't know why. Both PC's have plenty capacity and speed with duo processors. thanks in advance for any help. -- halfpint "Jon Peltier" wrote: Disable screen updating, and remove the selection from your code. I can imagine setting the chart height to zero while working on it will have unexpected consequences. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. - http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I found this hotfix description which addressed the problem:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938538/en-us I contacted customer support to get the file and they sent me he https://support.microsoft.com/contac...1410&WS=hotfix Used 938538 for the KB Article Number and X86 for the platform. I'm awaiting a response... -Albert On Nov 8, 9:07 am, "Jon Peltier" wrote: I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max I need. In general, you do not need to select anything. This gets an axis minimum from an unselected chart on a not necessarily active sheet in a not necessarily active workbook: Workbooks("Book1.xls).Worksheets("Sheet1").ChartOb jects(1).Chart.Axes(xlValue, xlPrimary).MinimumScale - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. -http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I failed to mention that I had previously turned off screen updating which helped as the macro moved from various pages but it continues to redraw the graph as the macro executes on that page. I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max I need. For lack of any thing else to try I used the hide feature. I have one PC with XP with both Excel 2000 and 2007 and ran run side by side comparisons with Excel 2000 which runs the plots in less than a second whereas with 2007 it takes 15 seconds per plot. Another problem I've seen is the following: I have another PC with Vista which also has both 2000 and 2007 Excel. If I try to load the Excel 2000 file (which works fine on the XP version) on a Vista machine it errors out...don't know why. Both PC's have plenty capacity and speed with duo processors. thanks in advance for any help. -- halfpint "Jon Peltier" wrote: Disable screen updating, and remove the selection from your code. I can imagine setting the chart height to zero while working on it will have unexpected consequences. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. -http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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On Nov 5, 8:11 pm, halfpint
wrote: I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint"Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm I have the exact same problem that is so FRUSTRATING!!! I used to make plots with a string of 30K points from a text file with no problem in 2003. I have tried 3 machines with XP and VISTA with tons of ram and cpu speed and it takes 30 secs to plot 10K of data. Any change with take about 15 to 20 secs which is unacceptable. This is a major step backward I will use open office. Any other solutions? Mike O |
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jadbal, I downloaded the hotfix and it appears to have solved the problem. I
only wish I had this fix before I spent all those hours trying to speed up the macros. Thanks for the help, do you know if MS will provide this fix to others....it's a serious problem. thanks again, halfpint -- halfpint "jadbal" wrote: I found this hotfix description which addressed the problem: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938538/en-us I contacted customer support to get the file and they sent me he https://support.microsoft.com/contac...1410&WS=hotfix Used 938538 for the KB Article Number and X86 for the platform. I'm awaiting a response... -Albert On Nov 8, 9:07 am, "Jon Peltier" wrote: I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max I need. In general, you do not need to select anything. This gets an axis minimum from an unselected chart on a not necessarily active sheet in a not necessarily active workbook: Workbooks("Book1.xls).Worksheets("Sheet1").ChartOb jects(1).Chart.Axes(xlValue, xlPrimary).MinimumScale - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. -http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I failed to mention that I had previously turned off screen updating which helped as the macro moved from various pages but it continues to redraw the graph as the macro executes on that page. I need to "select the plots" to have the macros calculate the min and max I need. For lack of any thing else to try I used the hide feature. I have one PC with XP with both Excel 2000 and 2007 and ran run side by side comparisons with Excel 2000 which runs the plots in less than a second whereas with 2007 it takes 15 seconds per plot. Another problem I've seen is the following: I have another PC with Vista which also has both 2000 and 2007 Excel. If I try to load the Excel 2000 file (which works fine on the XP version) on a Vista machine it errors out...don't know why. Both PC's have plenty capacity and speed with duo processors. thanks in advance for any help. -- halfpint "Jon Peltier" wrote: Disable screen updating, and remove the selection from your code. I can imagine setting the chart height to zero while working on it will have unexpected consequences. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Tutorials and Custom Solutions Peltier Technical Services, Inc. -http://PeltierTech.com _______ "halfpint" wrote in message ... I've also been very frustrated with the very slow charting of 2007 with vista. I've had to spend a lot of time modifying my macros to eliminate "select" because it drives a lot of cpu. One trick I've found that works is to put the graphs in a row and then "hide" the row while I generate the graphs with the macros. Once the graphs are created/modified with the macros I then "unhide" the row/graph. It speeds up the time greatly -- halfpint "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I have same problem with large data sets. In earlier Excel versions, they
ran just fine, but in Excel 2007, the program chokes up: e.g., I try to do a 'search-and--replace' in one column, and the systems freezes for a minute (showing "not responding" in the banner); e.g., I try deleting a column at the very end of the spreadsheet, and the program freezes, then crashes. I'm running Excel 2007 on both my desktop and laptop (pretty new PC's with tons of power and storage), and am having identical problems. Worst of all, I can't find any helpful hints on the internet to deal with this. As it stands, Excel 2007 is pretty useless for my needs, and I'll have to get back to an earlier version. So much for the much-touted million-row expansion ... "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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Hi Fred
Do you have Google Desktop loaded on these machines? If so, go to Control PanelPrograms and FeaturesRemove Google Desktop. It can be a real killer with Excel 2007. -- Regards Roger Govier "Fred" wrote in message ... I have same problem with large data sets. In earlier Excel versions, they ran just fine, but in Excel 2007, the program chokes up: e.g., I try to do a 'search-and--replace' in one column, and the systems freezes for a minute (showing "not responding" in the banner); e.g., I try deleting a column at the very end of the spreadsheet, and the program freezes, then crashes. I'm running Excel 2007 on both my desktop and laptop (pretty new PC's with tons of power and storage), and am having identical problems. Worst of all, I can't find any helpful hints on the internet to deal with this. As it stands, Excel 2007 is pretty useless for my needs, and I'll have to get back to an earlier version. So much for the much-touted million-row expansion ... "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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Fred, did you do the SP1 upgrade to 2007?
Bob "Fred" wrote in message ... I have same problem with large data sets. In earlier Excel versions, they ran just fine, but in Excel 2007, the program chokes up: e.g., I try to do a 'search-and--replace' in one column, and the systems freezes for a minute (showing "not responding" in the banner); e.g., I try deleting a column at the very end of the spreadsheet, and the program freezes, then crashes. I'm running Excel 2007 on both my desktop and laptop (pretty new PC's with tons of power and storage), and am having identical problems. Worst of all, I can't find any helpful hints on the internet to deal with this. As it stands, Excel 2007 is pretty useless for my needs, and I'll have to get back to an earlier version. So much for the much-touted million-row expansion ... "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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Hi Roger --
Thanks for your suggestion. Indeed, Google Desktop is causing the problem. As soon as I uninstalled it, Excel 2007 was working fine. LOTS OF THANKS. Best, FredW |
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I experience extreme slowness when cutting & pasting and inserting/deleting
rows. My worksheet is only 100 rows x 8 columns. And I do not have Google Desktop installed. Can anyone offer any help? Thank you very much. "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I am experiencing the same problem as Joelle. It hasn't always been this
slow. It is slow with all types of speadsheets (large, small, complex, simple, new, old, etc.) Copy/Paste is particularly slow. Blue circle seems to spin for ever on "copy" and then again on "paste". I do not have Google desktop installed. "Joelle" wrote: I experience extreme slowness when cutting & pasting and inserting/deleting rows. My worksheet is only 100 rows x 8 columns. And I do not have Google Desktop installed. Can anyone offer any help? Thank you very much. "Norm" wrote: I have spreadsheets going easily from 16000 to 64000 lines, I used to make EXCEL 2003 charts by using 3-4 worksheets easily. They were big but ran very fast. EXCEL 2007 is simply very slow, even if I try to do a chart from scratch. Simple line charts, scatter points nothing graphically demanding and my computer is a P4 full of memory. Anybody out there with the same problem? Norm |
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I am experiencing similar problem. The Excel is frustratingly sloww on
editing data series. Each of my data series is about 1200 points long and it is just a pain for the excel to open the dialog to let the data series be formated, not to mention if I want to change color or anything about it. I had intended to include about 18 lines in one chart. It is not a way to go. Right now there is 9 of them and it seems to be over every limit of the Excel. :(. I am bit surprised, I needed this time to work with Excel, for I need to share my data with some colleges abroad, usually I am working with another program (Sigmaplot) and I never realized it could take any computer time to calculate such plots, not to mention, the calculating program would have problem to just respond. In the end right now Excel even fails to open the dialog, after five attempts i did, the particular data series simply drops off the effort to have the dialog be opened. The CPU time usage drops to zero like if my command would fulfilled, but the dialog is nowhere (this is after about 5 min of CPU laborious attempts). Just frustrating program |
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i can tell you that performance is a big emphasis in 2010. i've submitted a few
examples they're using in their test suite. download the beta and give it a shot. -- Gary Keramidas Excel 2003 "for east" wrote in message ... I am experiencing similar problem. The Excel is frustratingly sloww on editing data series. Each of my data series is about 1200 points long and it is just a pain for the excel to open the dialog to let the data series be formated, not to mention if I want to change color or anything about it. I had intended to include about 18 lines in one chart. It is not a way to go. Right now there is 9 of them and it seems to be over every limit of the Excel. :(. I am bit surprised, I needed this time to work with Excel, for I need to share my data with some colleges abroad, usually I am working with another program (Sigmaplot) and I never realized it could take any computer time to calculate such plots, not to mention, the calculating program would have problem to just respond. In the end right now Excel even fails to open the dialog, after five attempts i did, the particular data series simply drops off the effort to have the dialog be opened. The CPU time usage drops to zero like if my command would fulfilled, but the dialog is nowhere (this is after about 5 min of CPU laborious attempts). Just frustrating program |
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I have recently upgraded to Office 2007 and have many Excel 2003 files with
several charts on a single worksheet which take forever to open and display in Excel 2007, sometimes it just locks up and I need to restart Excel. I also run Macros to update the data in hidden worksheets and Excel 2007 is so slow to update both the data and the charts. Any suggestions? I have SP2 loaded so I am assuming I have all the latest Hot Fixes and I dont have Google Desktop on "Gary Keramidas" wrote: i can tell you that performance is a big emphasis in 2010. i've submitted a few examples they're using in their test suite. download the beta and give it a shot. -- Gary Keramidas Excel 2003 "for east" wrote in message ... I am experiencing similar problem. The Excel is frustratingly sloww on editing data series. Each of my data series is about 1200 points long and it is just a pain for the excel to open the dialog to let the data series be formated, not to mention if I want to change color or anything about it. I had intended to include about 18 lines in one chart. It is not a way to go. Right now there is 9 of them and it seems to be over every limit of the Excel. :(. I am bit surprised, I needed this time to work with Excel, for I need to share my data with some colleges abroad, usually I am working with another program (Sigmaplot) and I never realized it could take any computer time to calculate such plots, not to mention, the calculating program would have problem to just respond. In the end right now Excel even fails to open the dialog, after five attempts i did, the particular data series simply drops off the effort to have the dialog be opened. The CPU time usage drops to zero like if my command would fulfilled, but the dialog is nowhere (this is after about 5 min of CPU laborious attempts). Just frustrating program . |
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No I dont. This is a corporate package so everyone gets the same and there
are currently no plans or support for upgrading to Office 2010. On another post I was told I should be using at least 4Gb RAM with a good video card as a way around that. Does anyone have an opinion on that, its not much good for me on a laptop! "Gary Keramidas" wrote: if you have the capability, download the x86 version of office 2010 and see if there is an improvement. charting was very slow in excel 2007, as were many other things. http://www.microsoft.com/office/2010/en/default.aspx -- Gary Keramidas Excel 2003 "Peter M" <Peter wrote in message ... I have recently upgraded to Office 2007 and have many Excel 2003 files with several charts on a single worksheet which take forever to open and display in Excel 2007, sometimes it just locks up and I need to restart Excel. I also run Macros to update the data in hidden worksheets and Excel 2007 is so slow to update both the data and the charts. Any suggestions? I have SP2 loaded so I am assuming I have all the latest Hot Fixes and I dont have Google Desktop on "Gary Keramidas" wrote: i can tell you that performance is a big emphasis in 2010. i've submitted a few examples they're using in their test suite. download the beta and give it a shot. -- Gary Keramidas Excel 2003 "for east" wrote in message ... I am experiencing similar problem. The Excel is frustratingly sloww on editing data series. Each of my data series is about 1200 points long and it is just a pain for the excel to open the dialog to let the data series be formated, not to mention if I want to change color or anything about it. I had intended to include about 18 lines in one chart. It is not a way to go. Right now there is 9 of them and it seems to be over every limit of the Excel. :(. I am bit surprised, I needed this time to work with Excel, for I need to share my data with some colleges abroad, usually I am working with another program (Sigmaplot) and I never realized it could take any computer time to calculate such plots, not to mention, the calculating program would have problem to just respond. In the end right now Excel even fails to open the dialog, after five attempts i did, the particular data series simply drops off the effort to have the dialog be opened. The CPU time usage drops to zero like if my command would fulfilled, but the dialog is nowhere (this is after about 5 min of CPU laborious attempts). Just frustrating program . . |
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