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How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a
graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'd like to show tick mark labels every 6 hours. |
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You can change the scale of the X axis to be every 6 hours (.25 day) IF you
are using an XY Scatter chart. If it's a LINE chart, you can't do it. "Debrane" wrote in message ... How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'd like to show tick mark labels every 6 hours. |
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Thanks. I tried that ... and you did answer my question, but now I have ALL
major tick marks. Is there any way that I can have daily major tick marks with labeled minor tick marks. ( I know that I can "fake" it my placinfg heavy vertical lines in, but I'm trying to make a template for future use by other users in the office.) Excel (and other community discussion) sez under "Selected Axis", go to "Scale" tab, then in the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box, type 1 to label every category, type 2 to label every other category, etc. In my "Scale" tab, I don't get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box. I have Excel version 2003, Professional. "Barb Reinhardt" wrote: You can change the scale of the X axis to be every 6 hours (.25 day) IF you are using an XY Scatter chart. If it's a LINE chart, you can't do it. "Debrane" wrote in message ... How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'd like to show tick mark labels every 6 hours. |
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Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in
days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'd like to show tick mark labels every 6 hours. |
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This chart is an XY scatter graph. The x-axis is formatted with date/time
format, so I successfully made 0.25 minor tick marks. To label every tick mark, I had to change my major tick marks to 0.25 also. However, I want major tick marks for every day and minor tick marks for every 6 hours. But I also want minor tick marks labelled. You said that I can change the x-axis format axis to a category-type axis so that I can get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box in the "Format Axis" Scale tab? If that's what you mean, then how do I change the x-axis format? "Jon Peltier" wrote: Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'd like to show tick mark labels every 6 hours. |
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A tick with a label is a major tick mark.
In an XY Scatter chart, you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 24 hours with minor (unlabeled) tick marks every six hours; or you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 6 hours. In a Line chart with a Category-type category axis, you can get "Number of Categories between Tick Mark Labels". This will help you define the number of minor ticks between each pair of major tick marks, but it will not allow you to label minor tick marks. If you really want to switch to a Line chart, select the entire chart, and using Chart Type from the Chart menu, select one of the Line Chart styles. Then using Chart Options from the Chart menu, Axes tab, choose the Categories option. Why not try the above on a copy of your chart, so when you're done you can delete one, without having to backtrack lots of steps if you like the previous appearance better. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: This chart is an XY scatter graph. The x-axis is formatted with date/time format, so I successfully made 0.25 minor tick marks. To label every tick mark, I had to change my major tick marks to 0.25 also. However, I want major tick marks for every day and minor tick marks for every 6 hours. But I also want minor tick marks labelled. You said that I can change the x-axis format axis to a category-type axis so that I can get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box in the "Format Axis" Scale tab? If that's what you mean, then how do I change the x-axis format? "Jon Peltier" wrote: Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'dliketoshowtickmarklabelsevery6hours. |
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So it sounds like I can't "have my cake and eat it too". I want date AND
time (therefore must have XY scatter chart); my data are spaced avery 10 minutes (must have XY scatter chart), but I want to have labels every 6 hours with major grid lines every 24 hours. So, if I want it done my way, I'll have to just draw heavy vertical lines or .... generate some extra data that looks like vertical lines. Unless you have someother ideas? By the way, thanks for the overview on chart types. "Jon Peltier" wrote: A tick with a label is a major tick mark. In an XY Scatter chart, you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 24 hours with minor (unlabeled) tick marks every six hours; or you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 6 hours. In a Line chart with a Category-type category axis, you can get "Number of Categories between Tick Mark Labels". This will help you define the number of minor ticks between each pair of major tick marks, but it will not allow you to label minor tick marks. If you really want to switch to a Line chart, select the entire chart, and using Chart Type from the Chart menu, select one of the Line Chart styles. Then using Chart Options from the Chart menu, Axes tab, choose the Categories option. Why not try the above on a copy of your chart, so when you're done you can delete one, without having to backtrack lots of steps if you like the previous appearance better. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: This chart is an XY scatter graph. The x-axis is formatted with date/time format, so I successfully made 0.25 minor tick marks. To label every tick mark, I had to change my major tick marks to 0.25 also. However, I want major tick marks for every day and minor tick marks for every 6 hours. But I also want minor tick marks labelled. You said that I can change the x-axis format axis to a category-type axis so that I can get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box in the "Format Axis" Scale tab? If that's what you mean, then how do I change the x-axis format? "Jon Peltier" wrote: Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day. I'dliketoshowtickmarklabelsevery6hours. |
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You could use the major ticks every 24 hours with a date-only label, and
format the vertical grid line in a darker grey, then put minor ticks every 6 hours with a lighter gray gridline. Then use a dummy series to create a dummy axis, with time-only labels every 6 am, noon, and 6 pm across the axis, using this technique: http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ArbitraryAxis.html Since you already have the minor tick marks, you can hide all the markers for the dummy series, and you can use a smaller font size for the times, which is not possible for labels along a regular axis. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: So it sounds like I can't "have my cake and eat it too". I want date AND time (therefore must have XY scatter chart); my data are spaced avery 10 minutes (must have XY scatter chart), but I want to have labels every 6 hours with major grid lines every 24 hours. So, if I want it done my way, I'll have to just draw heavy vertical lines or .... generate some extra data that looks like vertical lines. Unless you have someother ideas? By the way, thanks for the overview on chart types. "Jon Peltier" wrote: A tick with a label is a major tick mark. In an XY Scatter chart, you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 24 hours with minor (unlabeled) tick marks every six hours; or you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 6 hours. In a Line chart with a Category-type category axis, you can get "Number of Categories between Tick Mark Labels". This will help you define the number of minor ticks between each pair of major tick marks, but it will not allow you to label minor tick marks. If you really want to switch to a Line chart, select the entire chart, and using Chart Type from the Chart menu, select one of the Line Chart styles. Then using Chart Options from the Chart menu, Axes tab, choose the Categories option. Why not try the above on a copy of your chart, so when you're done you can delete one, without having to backtrack lots of steps if you like the previous appearance better. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: This chart is an XY scatter graph. The x-axis is formatted with date/time format, so I successfully made 0.25 minor tick marks. To label every tick mark, I had to change my major tick marks to 0.25 also. However, I want major tick marks for every day and minor tick marks for every 6 hours. But I also want minor tick marks labelled. You said that I can change the x-axis format axis to a category-type axis so that I can get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box in the "Format Axis" Scale tab? If that's what you mean, then how do I change the x-axis format? "Jon Peltier" wrote: Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each da y.I'dliketoshowtickmarklabelsevery6hours. |
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THank you!!! THank you. THank you!!!!!
"Jon Peltier" wrote: You could use the major ticks every 24 hours with a date-only label, and format the vertical grid line in a darker grey, then put minor ticks every 6 hours with a lighter gray gridline. Then use a dummy series to create a dummy axis, with time-only labels every 6 am, noon, and 6 pm across the axis, using this technique: http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ArbitraryAxis.html Since you already have the minor tick marks, you can hide all the markers for the dummy series, and you can use a smaller font size for the times, which is not possible for labels along a regular axis. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: So it sounds like I can't "have my cake and eat it too". I want date AND time (therefore must have XY scatter chart); my data are spaced avery 10 minutes (must have XY scatter chart), but I want to have labels every 6 hours with major grid lines every 24 hours. So, if I want it done my way, I'll have to just draw heavy vertical lines or .... generate some extra data that looks like vertical lines. Unless you have someother ideas? By the way, thanks for the overview on chart types. "Jon Peltier" wrote: A tick with a label is a major tick mark. In an XY Scatter chart, you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 24 hours with minor (unlabeled) tick marks every six hours; or you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 6 hours. In a Line chart with a Category-type category axis, you can get "Number of Categories between Tick Mark Labels". This will help you define the number of minor ticks between each pair of major tick marks, but it will not allow you to label minor tick marks. If you really want to switch to a Line chart, select the entire chart, and using Chart Type from the Chart menu, select one of the Line Chart styles. Then using Chart Options from the Chart menu, Axes tab, choose the Categories option. Why not try the above on a copy of your chart, so when you're done you can delete one, without having to backtrack lots of steps if you like the previous appearance better. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: This chart is an XY scatter graph. The x-axis is formatted with date/time format, so I successfully made 0.25 minor tick marks. To label every tick mark, I had to change my major tick marks to 0.25 also. However, I want major tick marks for every day and minor tick marks for every 6 hours. But I also want minor tick marks labelled. You said that I can change the x-axis format axis to a category-type axis so that I can get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box in the "Format Axis" Scale tab? If that's what you mean, then how do I change the x-axis format? "Jon Peltier" wrote: Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each da y.I'dliketoshowtickmarklabelsevery6hours. |
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Sorry it took so long....
- Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: THank you!!! THank you. THank you!!!!! "Jon Peltier" wrote: You could use the major ticks every 24 hours with a date-only label, and format the vertical grid line in a darker grey, then put minor ticks every 6 hours with a lighter gray gridline. Then use a dummy series to create a dummy axis, with time-only labels every 6 am, noon, and 6 pm across the axis, using this technique: http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/ArbitraryAxis.html Since you already have the minor tick marks, you can hide all the markers for the dummy series, and you can use a smaller font size for the times, which is not possible for labels along a regular axis. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: So it sounds like I can't "have my cake and eat it too". I want date AND time (therefore must have XY scatter chart); my data are spaced avery 10 minutes (must have XY scatter chart), but I want to have labels every 6 hours with major grid lines every 24 hours. So, if I want it done my way, I'll have to just draw heavy vertical lines or .... generate some extra data that looks like vertical lines. Unless you have someother ideas? By the way, thanks for the overview on chart types. "Jon Peltier" wrote: A tick with a label is a major tick mark. In an XY Scatter chart, you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 24 hours with minor (unlabeled) tick marks every six hours; or you can have major (labeled) tick marks every 6 hours. In a Line chart with a Category-type category axis, you can get "Number of Categories between Tick Mark Labels". This will help you define the number of minor ticks between each pair of major tick marks, but it will not allow you to label minor tick marks. If you really want to switch to a Line chart, select the entire chart, and using Chart Type from the Chart menu, select one of the Line Chart styles. Then using Chart Options from the Chart menu, Axes tab, choose the Categories option. Why not try the above on a copy of your chart, so when you're done you can delete one, without having to backtrack lots of steps if you like the previous appearance better. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: This chart is an XY scatter graph. The x-axis is formatted with date/time format, so I successfully made 0.25 minor tick marks. To label every tick mark, I had to change my major tick marks to 0.25 also. However, I want major tick marks for every day and minor tick marks for every 6 hours. But I also want minor tick marks labelled. You said that I can change the x-axis format axis to a category-type axis so that I can get the "Number of categories between tick mark labels" box in the "Format Axis" Scale tab? If that's what you mean, then how do I change the x-axis format? "Jon Peltier" wrote: Excel stores date-time data as the sum of a whole number (the date, in days since 1 Jan 1900, give or take a leap day) plus a fraction (the time, as elapsed since midnight, so 6 am = 0.25). If you make an XY Scatter chart using this date-time as your X values, you can do whatever you want, with major ticks at midnight and minor ticks every 6 hours. You can enter 0.25 for your minor spacing (1/4 day) or 6:00, and Excel will convert the time to the decimal equivalent. You can also enter dates for the min or max, and Excel will convert them. A Line chart has two ways to do this. If Excel recognizes the dates, it creates a numerical date scale axis (misnamed a "time scale" axis by Microsoft). It uses only the whole number piece of the data and ignores the fraction. Your X axis spacing then can be no less than 1 full day, major or minor spacing, and all points are plotted at midnight at the start of the day. A Line chart can also have a category axis which uses each X value entry as a non-numerical label. Points are equally spaced regardless of the time difference between points. You can specify a number of categories between major and minor labels, and if your data consists of four evenly spaced measurements per 24-hour period, you can approximate a daily major tick with four minor divisions. In a Line chart you can change from one category axis type (Category or Time Scale) by selecting Chart Options from the Chart menu, and clicking on the Axes tab. You might be better off with an XY Scatter chart. You can format the points as in a line chart, so don't let an unfortunate choice of chart type names mislead your choice of chart types. - Jon ------- Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP Peltier Technical Services Tutorials and Custom Solutions http://PeltierTech.com/ _______ Debrane wrote: How can I increase the quanity of tick mark labels along the x-axis in a graph? I.E. Excel only puts my Date/Time tick mark labels at the beginning of each day.I'dliketoshowtickmarklabelsevery6hours. |
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